Miss Speak and Crimes Unique | 26.3.2

Intro

Speaker 3 0:00

Why did people think tomatoes were poisonous in the 1700s? The answer to that at the end of the show. Welcome to Quizzical, the show where overthinking finally pays off. I'm Scott Strosahl, and today we've brought together three competitors who are ready to prove that knowing trivia and recalling trivia are different skills. This is the second of four head-to-head-to-head matchups this time, the winners of which will face off in a final showdown in a few weeks. In today's games, we'll visit with Miss Speak and ponder Crimes Unique. And along the way, we'll also crown another People's Champion with the answer to last week's listener question. So play along, pause if you need to. Redemption is always one question away. We've got questions, we've got answers, and we've got at least one fact today that will reappear the next time someone says fun fact. Now let's meet our three contestants today and get to the trivia. So you may notice that we've got three contestants today. That's because our contestants are not only is there three of them, but they're all in a room together, which is unusual for this show. Um they are at a conference together. Um do you guys wanna well why don't you introduce yourselves first? We have um Sven. We'll start with Sven. Sven, you want to share a little fun fact about yourself?

Speaker 2 1:20

Um it's not fun, but I've made a nice Sudoku app called Sudokupad. Um and I don't really like quizzes, so I'm very curious how this is gonna play out for me. Perfect. Don't like quizzes.

Speaker 3 1:30

It's the ideal contestant. Yeah, yeah, Sudokupad, um, the app, uh definitely I'll leave links in the, you know, wherever your people are listening to this, there will be a link to the Sudokupad app. And yeah, it's I a lot of people use it. Well, when they've set Sudokus, they share them using the Sudokupad app, and people use it to solve Sudokus and yeah, all kinds of cool things in there. All right, and then we have um a full deck, on full deck, which is uh a pseudonym of sorts, your your puzzle pseudonym, I guess, right?

Speaker 2:02

It it is, it's my Sudoku nym. Um and I am in the envious position of getting to um make a fair bit of my living from teaching other people to solve and set Sudoku and doing some research on that and um partner up with this fellow right here.

Speaker 1 2:17

Uh and I'm missing a few cards. Missing a few cards. That's correct, and I am I think it's quite descriptive. Um so my fun fact is yes, uh my brain is beginning to miss a few cards. Uh we we teach together and separately, but we we plan courses together on teaching people about Sudoku and how to create them. Yes. Very cool.

Speaker 2:38

Uh together we are sometimes collectively known as Missing Deck, and that's the name of our puzzle website.

Speaker 1 2:43

Yeah, missingdeck.net is where we publish all our puzzles.

Speaker 2:45

Yep.

Speaker 3 2:46

Nice. So we'll have links to that as well and all the places wherever wherever people are listening to this, there'll be a link. They'll know how to find it in their particular app or whatever. But um, do you guys want to say where you're where you teach at? Sure. Sure.

Speaker 2:58

We're at Clemson University in Clemson, South Carolina, in the United States.

Speaker 1 3:03

But currently we're in San Francisco attending a conference that's actually just finished an hour or so back called Gathering for Gardener, uh celebration of puzzles and uh magic and skepticism and all sorts of things wonderful.

Speaker 3 3:18

Right, which is why the three of you are in the same room together, because you were all at the conference. Yeah, it'll be a little bit different dynamic having you guys in the same room competing against each other. I think it'll be good. But Eliza's gonna win. Uh sorry, full deck's gonna win.

unknown 3:31

Yeah.

Speaker 3 3:33

Well, we shall see.

Speaker 3:35

It'll make it a lot easier to block the others out from pressing their buzzer.

Speaker 3 3:40

So that's true. Yeah, you could you could you could physically stop them from hitting their buzzers. That's true. That doesn't normally happen. This will be nothing. Are you ticklish? All right, well, now that we all know each other, are we ready for our first game? Sure. Sure.

Game 1 - 'Miss Speak'

Speaker 3 3:57

Alright, so for round one, we're starting with a game called Miss Speak. In this game, every answer will start with Miss M-I-S. And the clue will point towards both the full word with the miss and the word without the miss. So I have an example. If I said she judged poorly while adding things up, the answer would be miscalculate. Because judging poorly is miscalculating, and adding things up is calculating. So the clue will point to the full word with the miss at the beginning as well as the other part without the miss. So we're gonna buzz into answer, but if you get it wrong, your opponents will have a chance to steal. Sven, your buzzer sounds like missing a few cards, your buzzer sounds like. And full deck, your buzzer sounds like. Alright, question number one. She had some bad luck with a substantial sum of money. Oh, Sven. Mistake? No, not mistake. Could either of the the card decks steal? Full deck.

Speaker 5:08

Misfortune.

Speaker 3 5:09

Misfortune, very good. Because bad luck would be misfortune, and a substantial amount of sum of money would be uh a fortune.

Speaker 5:16

That took a while though.

Speaker 3 5:17

Alright, very good. Next question. She made a blunder while going up the staircase. Oh, missing a few cards.

Speaker 1 5:26

Misstep.

Speaker 3 5:27

Misstep, very good.

Speaker 5:29

Very nice, very nice.

Speaker 3 5:30

A blunder would be a misstep, and staircase would be steps. Yep. Okay. Question three. No, no, no. Expel the Armus has two L's. Oh, Full Deck was first.

Speaker 5:43

Misspell.

Speaker 3 5:45

Misspell, very good. Alright, next question. She grabbed the doorknob way too hard. Oh, full deck.

Speaker 5:55

Misshandel.

Speaker 3 5:56

Misshandel, very good. These all sound obvious after the fact. Yeah, it sounds so obvious after the fact, doesn't it? That's how these always go. Alright, next question. She was guilty of a minor crime, though her outward behavior didn't show it. Ooh, full deck just got in there first.

Speaker 6:15

Misdemeanor.

Speaker 3 6:16

Misdemeanor, very good.

Speaker 6:18

It's a little disturbing that we got the crime one fast.

Speaker 3 6:22

Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's actually a little bit of foreshadowing. That's actually probably a good thing for things to come.

Speaker 6:28

Oh dear.

Speaker 3 6:30

Oh goody. Alright, next question. She sent the actors the wrong way while filming that scene. Ooh, Sven, first one in. Misdirection. Misdirect or misdirection, yes, very good.

Speaker 6:45

Very nice. Very nice.

Speaker 3 6:47

Good job, Sven. Alright. Next question. She isn't so sure about the gift she bought. She isn't so sure about the gift she bought. And remember, she bought the gift. So what's she doing with the gift? Maybe that's a good hand. Ooh, Sven. Misgiving. Misgiving. There you go.

Speaker 2 7:10

I think I saw the light bulb on her head. I was like, oh!

Speaker 3 7:15

You saw the light bulb above her head, and that gave you the answer.

Speaker 2 7:18

Oh yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 7:19

Yeah. Nice. Alright, next question. She had an unfortunate incident while exploring unknown territory. Sven. Can I unbuzz? I'll go with it. Mishap? Mishap? No, not mishap. Good guess. I think Full Deck was in next.

Speaker 7:43

Misadventure.

Speaker 3 7:44

Misadventure. Yes. Very good. There's a lot of misswords in English. Alright, we've got one more last question. She gave you the wrong idea that she was the most important in her field. Ooh, missing. Misled. Misled or misleading, yes. Very nice. Very nice.

Speaker 8:08

Very nice.

Speaker 3 8:09

Great job, all of you, but especially good job to Full Deck, who won that game and is one step closer to making the final. And Sven and missing a few cards. You will have to win the next game to force a tiebreaker and keep your hopes alive.

Listener Question

Speaker 3 8:28

Alright, now it's time for the answer to last week's listener question. As a reminder, this was another associations-type question. You have to figure out how the four things are associated or what they have in common. And the four items were a ship, a clock, a card game, and a monkey. And the answer is they all have hands. Of course, a ship has hands, meaning the people that work on the ship. A clock has the hands that point to the numbers. Card game, you have hand of cards, and monkeys have hands, just like people. So if you figure that out, good job, but especially good job to Amy Justin, who was selected from those that sent in correct answers this week. Amy, you are this week's people's champion. And now for this week's question, it's a pretty short one, and it's possible that there's more than one answer. I have one specific answer in mind, but I will accept other answers if you have another one that fits this question. But the question is what object is designed to fail on purpose every time it's used? If you think you know the answer that I have or another answer, send a message to people at quizzical.fm or go to quizzical.fm and click on the leave a voicemail button, and you could submit your answer in audio form. Either way, send us your answers, and you could be next week's People's Champion.

Game 2 - 'Crime Rhyme Time'

Speaker 3 9:55

Our second game today is called Crime Rhyme Time. So to achieve glory in this category, you must answer with a crime made up of rhymes. They may be oddly specific, but your score will be terrific if you can find the two words that did in these jailbirds. So basically, I'm gonna give you a clue that describes a specific crime, maybe an overly specific crime, and the words will rhyme. For example, if I said he was caught sneaking through customs with balls, bowling pins, and rings, you would answer juggling smuggling or juggler smuggler. Clear as mud? That one I might have gotten. Yeah, I might have gotten okay. Well, I guess I shouldn't use that one as the example then, huh? Alright, we'll take turns on this one so you can put the buzzers down and feel free to talk it out before you answer. But if you're wrong, your opponents will get a chance to steal.

Speaker 10:52

Are we allowed to toss in misleading comments to the other person?

Speaker 3 10:55

Sure, sure, why not? Alright, so we're gonna start. We'll just start on the left there with missing a few cards. We'll go first. And your question is the pastor had bats in his belfry and burned down the church. Parson Arson? Parson Arson. Very good, very good. Alright. Full deck, you're up next. I think my neighbor is using artificial turf in order to win the best lawn award, but that is clearly against the rules.

Speaker 11:30

Okay, so artificial turf would be fake grass. Um best lawn competition first class. Fake um I guess against the rules. But against the rules, yeah. I mean, so it's it's something like grass class would work, except that that's not a crime. So let's see, fraud would be a crime. Um but I'm not coming up with anything about grass that rhymes with fraud. I'm just not seeing this. Um I I think I might, I think Sven might use it.

Speaker 2 12:11

You might be stumped? I'm trying desperately to think if the word meter relates to turf or grass in any way. Because there's of course cheater is is is the and I'm trying to rhyme something with cheater, but I'm terrible at rhyming as well, so that doesn't help. So we have lawn grass, we have cheater, we have so cheater is is the illegal action. It's it's a tricky word to rhyme with.

Speaker 3 12:36

If you don't have it, maybe missing a few cards will be able to steal it. I don't know. I I don't want to give them the chance, but I don't see the options. Alright, missing a few cards. Do you have uh can you steal it?

Speaker 1 12:47

I I don't. I've been trying to do greenery scenery and finding a crime crime that rhymes with that, and I'm not getting anything, and that then I thought about sod and sodomy, but that's not right.

Speaker 3 12:59

Okay, well, we're gonna say no one gets that one, but I think between the two of you, full deck and missing a few cards, actually you kind of got it, but you didn't put the pieces together. You were talking fraud, uh-huh, and he mentioned sod.

Speaker 13:14

Sod fraud. Sod fraud.

Speaker 2 13:18

Yeah, sod wasn't in my brain, it wasn't available for me.

Speaker 3 13:23

Yeah, yeah, that was great. Alright. Alright, well, the next one is for Sven. Alright. Alright. The thief lost his glasses while climbing over the gate. So we had a hard time seeing things to steal when he broke into the house.

Speaker 2 13:37

He lost his glasses when he went over the gate. So he had a hard time seeing things when he broke into the house. We have blind, we have burglar. He lost his glasses. So we we need a word that relates to his profession and a word that relates to the criminal aspect. Non unseeing thief. Grief thief, no. Um now I'm confused because the question already includes the crime and the word for the crime, which is thief. So I'm guessing the answer is a different crime? Or it refers to the same crime with a different word. I mean we have burglar, burglary. It might also be a red herring, the the sightedness of it. It might not be related to his vision, i.e. blindness, but it could be related to him not seeing things. So perhaps hidden or deception. Oh, I don't want to give this one up. But I am not seeing the path. Alright, I'll I suppose I'll have to pass this one on. Okay.

Speaker 3 14:43

Missing a few cards.

Speaker 1 14:44

Can you close this I've got is uh no sight daylight robbery, but I don't think that's anywhere close.

Speaker 3 14:51

So not a bad guess, but no, that's not it. Maybe full deck, you got this one?

Speaker 14:55

I'm trying to come up with something that rhymes with robber. Um and or break and enter.

Speaker 3 15:03

And um good ideas, but I don't think you're getting there. Uh Sven was on the right track with burglary. But if you don't have your glasses, you're not really blind, but everything is blurry, so blurry burglary.

Speaker 2 15:20

Okay. Blurry burglary, okay. I would have not figured that rhyme.

Speaker 3 15:24

That's a tricky one. This is a tricky one, but do I get partial points?

Speaker 4 15:27

Is that how it works?

Speaker 3 15:28

No, unfortunately not. Alright, we're back to missing a few cards for the next one. Here we go. She attacked him with lava rocks.

Speaker 15:36

You don't get this one, I'm stealing it.

Speaker 3 15:37

I'm sure you are. Um no pressure or anything. Basalt, assault.

Speaker 15:42

Dang it! Dang it! I had that one. I was ready to steal. I got both of yours, but uh sitting in the wrong spot.

Speaker 3 15:50

Very nice. Basalt assault. Yep. Okay. Next one is for uh full deck. They got the crowd all fired up, but unfortunately, they were going too fast in the process.

Speaker 16:03

Okay, so speeding.

Speaker 3 16:07

Um Sven looks like he's ready to steal this one.

Speaker 16:10

Oh man. Um, they got the crowd all fired up. So so going too fast feels like speeding. So speed or speeding. Um yeah, no, I'm just feeling the waves of I know this coming from me.

Speaker 2 16:25

It's on the light bulb, right here.

Speaker 16:34

They got the fired crowd all fired up. So they roused the crowd. They um keep going down the wrong path. Oh hush. Um they riled the crowd up. They they incited the crowd. Um incited and incited. I you steal it, go for it.

Speaker 3 16:58

Cheerleader speeder? Yes, cheerleader speeder or cheerleading speeding, either way. Yeah, yeah, very good.

Speaker 17:04

Okay, so I got the speeding.

Speaker 1 17:06

That's what popped it into my head. I would have got leading speeding, but I wouldn't have got the cheerleading.

Speaker 3 17:10

Leading speeding. Yeah, that was close, yep. Alright, and Sven could go double up here, because the next one is for Sven. He stole that one, and this one is his question. So see if you can get two in a row. Alright, Sven. The thief managed to take control of the car by climbing in through the rear cargo door.

Speaker 2 17:26

Alright, my I can't I don't have the word, but there's a word for somebody who takes over a vehicle, but it might not be relevant. So the the can you say again the first part?

Speaker 3 17:40

The thief managed to take control of the car by climbing in through the rear rear cargo door. Rear cargo door. It's so strangely specific.

Speaker 2 17:50

Um I I warned you they were gonna be very sp oddly specific. Yeah. So somebody who's trying to control, so somebody who's taking over, who's high hijacking. Hijack and something with a rear cargo door. Now Jack and Deck. You you know the word for a door that rhymes with Jack, don't you?

Speaker 3 18:12

Um They're they're patiently waiting their turn to steal.

Speaker 18:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um I'm not gonna get a chance. You're gonna take it.

Speaker 2 18:20

Oh, there's uh, it's like there's the word that's an entrance of some kind. Um back hijack. Back door hijack, no. It's like there's a black hole where the word is, and I see everything around is it's right there. Um gap hijack, no, crack hijack, no. Um entrance. Okay, I I got I guess I have to.

Speaker 18:47

So you'll get the points, but can we say it in unison? Oh yeah, of course we can. Hatchback cards.

Speaker 3 18:54

So it wasn't hijacked, hatchback, cardjack, or hatchback, hijack, either way would work. Yeah, hijack would have been a bit.

Speaker 19:00

But you get the point.

Speaker 3 19:01

But missing gets the point on that one. Yes, yes. Alright. Next question is for missing a few cards. And on top of everything else, while testifying, she lied about having an appendectomy. Surgery perjury. Yep. Surgery perjury, very good.

Speaker 19:19

Very nicely done. Very nicely done.

Speaker 3 19:21

I got lucky. Alright, full deck. Next one's for you. Alright. He slipped a 20 inside the front cover as he returned the book late. Oh, I I got that one. Ah I saw I saw both of them on either side of you at the exact same time. The lights went on.

Speaker 19:41

Man.

Speaker 1 19:42

I don't get to steal this one.

Speaker 19:43

Well, no, I'm now I'm just the pressure's totally on. Okay, so it's a fine.

Speaker 2 19:50

Yeah.

Speaker 19:52

Um hush.

Speaker 2 19:55

Um no, no, it's definitely a fine.

Speaker 20:01

So a penalty, it's a penalty, it's a it's a it's a bribe, it's a um man. I'm just gonna they're both getting it, they're both sitting here grinning ear to ear. I'm just gonna throw my hands up in the air and pass it to Sten.

Speaker 2 20:16

You don't want to give it uh a guess?

Speaker 20:20

I could, but it's gonna be more fun to just hear it at this point.

Speaker 2 20:23

Is it is it is it mine to take? Yes, it is. It's a library bribery.

Speaker 3 20:28

Nice. Library bribery, yes. I'm still in it. Alright. Last one is for Sven. When the police arrived, the body was found with a pair of binoculars and a book titled Field Guide to Birds.

Speaker 2 20:46

Alright, so the the crime is murder or or a kill or or at least assault of some kind. And we have a bird watcher. You also have a murder of cro crows, but that's this one I've got.

Speaker 21:03

I've got most of yours. This one of course.

Speaker 2 21:08

Bird or murder doesn't quite work. Oh, what was that? Why doesn't that work? Oh, bird or oh yeah, because you can call a bird watcher burder, I suppose. Bird or murder, yeah.

Speaker 3 21:18

Burder murder, there you go. That's it.

Speaker 1 21:20

Very good. That means we're tied, I think.

Speaker 3 21:22

I think you're uh no, actually, um missing a few cards wins that one. Four to three. Very good.

Speaker 2 21:29

Wow. If I would have only guessed any of my own questions.

Speaker 3 21:32

Yeah. Close one and a tough one. That was a tough game. You guys did really good with that.

Speaker 21:36

Alright, so now it's head-to-head us.

Speaker 3 21:38

After that, we have full deck has won a game, missing a few cards is one a game. So we're on our tiebreaker game just between those two. Sven gets to relax now. That's the real prize. Alright, so the way this is gonna work, our tiebreaker game is called Elemental Singularity. On the periodic table. Of elements. Do you guys know the periodic table very well? Nope. Nope. Perfect. Okay. On the periodic table of elements, there are 14 elements with a single letter abbreviation. We're going to go back and forth naming them, and the first person to get a wrong answer or repeat an answer is out. Okay? And full deck as winner of the first game, you will start. So

Game 3 - 'Singular Element'

Speaker 3 22:24

all you have to do is name name an element that has a single letter abbreviation.

Speaker 22:28

Oxygen.

Speaker 3 22:30

Oxygen, correct. Hydrogen. Hydrogen is correct. Carbon. Carbon is correct. Iodine. Iodine is correct.

Speaker 22:44

Potassium.

Speaker 3 22:45

Potassium is correct. Uranium. Uranium is correct. Very good.

Speaker 22:54

Tungsten.

Speaker 3 22:56

Tungsten is correct. Back to missing. Floron, very good.

Speaker 23:07

There's some that I'm almost willing to go with, um, but not quite. Oh. Sulfur.

Speaker 3 23:15

Sulfur is correct. Very good. Back to missing.

Speaker 1 23:19

Fluorine?

Speaker 3 23:20

Fluorine is correct. Back to full deck. How many are left?

Speaker 23:26

Yeah, how many are left?

Speaker 3 23:27

There are four left. You guys are doing really good.

Speaker 23:31

I'm going through the alphabet and and trying to think of the letters we haven't done yet. Which ones am I most confident of one way or the other? Um I've gotten a tossing up between two that I think might be, and I'm I I think this is not gonna be right, but I'm gonna go with yttrium.

Speaker 3 23:51

Yttrium is correct. Is it? Oh, I wasn't sure if it was.

Speaker 1 23:57

Have we done nitrogen?

Speaker 3 23:59

Is that your guess? Yes. Correct. We have not done nitrogen yet. Alright, back to full deck. There's two left.

Speaker 24:07

Uh-oh.

Speaker 3 24:11

This is intense. For people that don't know the periodic table, you guys sure seem to know a lot about the periodic table.

Speaker 24:22

Let's see.

Speaker 3 24:23

Um plenty of letters left, but which ones?

Speaker 24:26

Yeah, there's only two left that'll that'll work. And then I have to figure out what the right element is. Um Right.

Speaker 2 24:33

I think just the letter won't count.

Speaker 24:35

Exactly.

Speaker 2 24:35

No, the letter won't count, unfortunately.

Speaker 24:38

Again, I I I question myself, but it's the only thing that I'm coming up with right now, plutonium.

Speaker 3 24:43

Plutonium is not one of them, unfortunately.

Speaker 24:47

What were the two that we made? Do you have another one?

Speaker 3 24:49

Uh I would have guessed radium and gallium. Those would both be incorrect as well. What about xenon? Xenon.

Speaker 24:57

That's XE.

Speaker 3 24:57

Oh, it's XE, okay. I wasn't sure. The two that were left were Phosphorus, which is just a P, and Vanadium, which is just a V. Phosphorus and mine should go.

Speaker 25:06

I thought of actually those. Vanadium I thought of earlier.

Speaker 3 25:10

I can't believe you got Yttrium. That one was really that was very good. That was good. That was a good poll. All right. Well, with that, I believe missing a few cards is our winner. And it's moving on to the final round at the end of the month.

Outro

Speaker 3 25:25

Congratulations, and thank you to Sven and Full Deck for playing with us. Thanks for having us.

Speaker 4 25:30

Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 25:31

Before we go, we have the answer to the question I asked at the beginning. Why did people think tomatoes were poisonous in the 1700s? Do you guys know at all? Do you have a guess?

Speaker 25:40

Yes. In fact, I think we do. So, at least I think I do. So, tomatoes were often, there were a lot of pewter and lead platters, and tomatoes reacted with that and and um caused essentially lead poisoning.

Speaker 3 25:53

Yeah, it wasn't the tomatoes, it was that they had pewter plates which contained the lead, and the the acid caused the lead to leach. And people thought that tomatoes were poisonous, and for like 100-200 years they wouldn't eat tomatoes in Europe.

Speaker 1 26:05

Uh well, tomatoes and potatoes are actually fairly closely related to deadly nightshade, so there may well be something there as well.

Speaker 3 26:12

Yep, so that that's another reason why people thought maybe they were poisonous too. So now you know, people thought tomatoes were poisonous when in reality it was lead plates that they were eating off of. A detail that will absolutely derail a dinner conversation. That's it for this week, and remember, facts are more fun when they fight. I'm Scott, and this has been Quizzical.